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Вот такое объявление было обнаружено вчера на автобусной остановке.
Как говорится, без комментариев.
Но ситуацию с востребованностью разных профессий в моем депрессивном регионе отражает вполне адекватно.

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(по телефону - грузят "вы достойны большего... бла-бла-бла... измените свою жизнь... бла-бла-бла.." и приглашают на бесплатный семинар в областном центре. Не поеду, некогда.)

Вспомнился анекдот из далеких-далеких школьных времен конца 80-х
В школе учительница спрашивает у учеников, где работают их папы.
- Мой папа директор универмага.
- Мой папа товаровед.
- Мой папа главный бухгалтер.
- А мой папа работает в НИИ инженером.
Весь класс засмеялся. Учительница:

- Не смейтесь, дети, у мальчика такое горе...


От чего ушли - к тому и пришли. Не смешно, на самом деле.

P.S. отличный демотиватор, по наводке rbs_vader



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Date: 3 May 2016 17:25 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] ultraboy2000.livejournal.com

Инженер инженеру рознь...а вот лохотронщиков развелось это да.

Date: 4 May 2016 09:01 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] modest-so-zvezd.livejournal.com
только не сравнивайте тру-инженеров с АйТишниками! Понятное дело что последние имеют нас всех по зарплатам в особо циничной форме

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Date: 3 May 2016 17:26 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] fortovsky.livejournal.com
Пять лет назад в сфере впаривания всякой херни котировались военные.

Акценты смещаются. Помимо твердолобости теперь требуется владение технической лексикой.
Date: 3 May 2016 17:42 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] pokerfrog.livejournal.com
Ни фига. Просто очередной лохотронщик в поисках завлекающего текста решил попробовать инженеров - пенсионеры и военные уже набили оскомину. Креатив, ёпта... А суть та же - не прячьте ваши денюжки... по банкам и углам... та-да-да-дам... вы лучше ваше денюжки... несите прямо к нам

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Date: 3 May 2016 17:47 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] dzmitry lazerka (from livejournal.com)
Как там ваш немецкий?
Date: 3 May 2016 18:46 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] fixik-papus.livejournal.com
В районе А2.
Но кино на немецком понимать пока что не получается. А вот мануалы читать - легко

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Date: 3 May 2016 17:50 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] middlefist.livejournal.com
Сейчас тот самый переломный момент, когда старые инженеры уже не могут работать, а новых инженеров нету, поскольку "непрестижно" было.
И резюме на НН, висящее там "на всякий" притягивает всё больше внимания, но зарплаты пока не очень, поэтому обождем.
Есть подозрение, что лет через 10 будут рвать на части (уже начинается понемногу).
Date: 3 May 2016 18:02 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] exobravo.livejournal.com
Если через 10 лет РФ еще будет существовать. В чем лично я не уверен.

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Date: 3 May 2016 18:04 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] der-jolly.livejournal.com
Да, грустная ситуёвина.
Date: 3 May 2016 18:36 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] gray-bird.livejournal.com
Да, "очкарик из НИИ", это как был синоним "неудачник" так и остался.
Очень смешно, у нас вся массовая культура последние лет 40 построена на том, что делать что-то своими руками - западло!
До кризиса, диалоги вида:
-Я сам в машине ТО сделал!
-У тебя что денег на сервис не было?

- Я сам мебель на кухню изготовил!
- Вот тебе делать нечего

- Я сам телевизор починил.
- Взял бы кредит и купил новый, охота тебе заморачиваться

И т.д. и т.п., руками работают только неудачники, чоткие пацаны тяжелей телефонной трубки ничего в руки не берут!
Date: 3 May 2016 19:03 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] davels.livejournal.com
гыгы. я паяльником могу провода спаять нормально.
но на днях перепаял пару smd светодиодов в лампочке. и она опять пока еще светит )))
или в стиралке заменил щетки (случайно на старом полудохлом форуме нашел подсказку). 3 бакса на щетки и стиралка опять работает. до того пахала 11 лет.

отакэ.

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Date: 3 May 2016 18:40 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] reedcat1965.livejournal.com
Неужели Гербалайф или Амвэй никак не угомонится?
В Минске такие объявы были в середине 90х.
Date: 3 May 2016 19:09 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] rbs-vader.livejournal.com
Image

Это я не вам, если что. Вы-то настоящий. ))
Date: 3 May 2016 21:23 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] nivanych.livejournal.com
> Свободный и необидный юмор
Очень не обязательно так ;-)

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Date: 3 May 2016 19:16 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] aviator9298.livejournal.com
Не ушли, как видишь.
Date: 3 May 2016 19:18 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] migmit.livejournal.com
Я слышал вариант:

...
— А мой папа играет на рояле в борделе.
Учительница в шоке, вызывает папу Вовочки в школу, спрашивает:
— Вы что, правда играете на рояле в борделе? И сказали об этом своему сыну?
— Ну что вы, я, вообще-то, программист, разрабатываю распределённые системы обработки информации, работающие по протоколу IPX... но как, по-вашему, я должен это объяснять восьмилетнему пацану?

Рассказал этот анекдот своим американским коллегам, очень смеялись, сказали, возьмут на вооружение.
Date: 4 May 2016 08:34 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] yushkin.livejournal.com
Не, это про TCP/IP в Unix.

PS: Распределенная обработка на IPX (не-SPX) - жестоко.

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From: [identity profile] vaquero1978.livejournal.com
а ведь инженеры должны быть в авангарде общества, в т.ч. по зарплатам
Date: 3 May 2016 19:52 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] martynd.livejournal.com
от каждого по способностям, каждому по потребностям, а потребности натренировать в даоских монастырях)

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Date: 3 May 2016 19:50 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] martynd.livejournal.com
В той системе инженер все же был и востребуем и уважаем, анекдотец этот не на заводах придумали, и скорее всего из зависти, презрения и т.п. Достигнут бы хотя-бы того уровня когда в тебе как специалисте государство нуждается. Но пока мазут из земли не выкачают власть имущие не зашевелятся(
Date: 3 May 2016 20:02 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] davels.livejournal.com
а как мазута закончится свалят в солнечную калифорнию\испанию\францию.

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Date: 3 May 2016 20:23 (UTC)

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Дык, ап чем и говорится - какие такие анженеры? Габон он и есть габон, да еще и северный. Не нужны. А уж вумные так не нужны вдвойне, ибо верные надобны. И дешевые.
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Нужны все верные умные и прочие, любой потребитель вписывается в маркетинговые схемы хоть в Урюпинске хоть в Абердине. Ну и без персоналий типа Г.Хьюза скорее всего весь мир северный\южный(нужное подчеркнуть) Габон

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Date: 3 May 2016 20:33 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] andrey.eto-ya.com (from livejournal.com)
Нет смысла тащиться на "семинар", скорее всего, завлекают в форекс или в млм какой-нибудь. И у любой хоть сколько-нибудь серьезной компании есть сайт.
Date: 4 May 2016 11:38 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] fixik-papus.livejournal.com
Конечно, нет. Кто бы сомневался :)
Date: 3 May 2016 20:48 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] ko4evnik-v.livejournal.com

Почитал каменты, рукалицо просто.
Сколько инфантилизма у нашей "технической части общества"...

Date: 3 May 2016 21:28 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] rbs-vader.livejournal.com
А вы кто, к примеру?

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From: [identity profile] kuznetsov-vv.livejournal.com
Пооооохуууую.

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From: [identity profile] gravitrap.livejournal.com
Это самый банальный сетевой маркетинг.
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From: [identity profile] fixik-papus.livejournal.com
Это понятно.
Удивила "целевая аудитория"

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From: [identity profile] Леонид Токарев (from livejournal.com)
Я как то на своей странице в одной из соцсетей написал -- К верхней крышке днища штампованного чугунного люка двумя болтами было приварено алюминевое треугольное отверстие диаметром 6х8. И мне никто не возразил.
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From: [identity profile] rbs-vader.livejournal.com
Чорт, я проиграл в голос с вашей фразы. Это ведь ещё понять надо. Меня убило на приваренном алюминии, ага. Школа была ещё советская, хорошо вдолбила про оксидную плёнку и аргоновую сварку. Слово "отверстие" меня прикончило.
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From: [identity profile] ushkuinik13.livejournal.com
А ещё надо припомнить некоего Жванецкого с его тупейшей, но, увы, разошедшейся фразой про высшее техническое. Результат действий именно по ней мы сейчас и наблюдаем.
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From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/britva_/
У меня друг, окончил ФИЗТЕХ, ФАЛТ (факультет аэродинамики) устроился на авиазавод, полгода или год не платили зарплату. В итоге уволился, просидел полгода-год с книгами и пошёл работать в валютный отдел банка к друзьям. Сейчас перуспел, работает на бирже.
Date: 4 May 2016 03:33 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] shurets.livejournal.com
Этот год его кто кормил?

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From: [identity profile] zhytie.livejournal.com
*Не смешно, на самом деле.*
Полностью с Вами согласен!
Вы давайте, интенсивируйтесь уже, с немецким-то!!
Date: 4 May 2016 07:24 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] michaelnnn.livejournal.com
Инженер инженеру рознь. Встречаются и лохи. Особенно когда инженер вдруг начинает думать что он гений финансов и эксперт по всему на свете.)
Date: 4 May 2016 07:30 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] martynd.livejournal.com
Вы там очень в верху в ветке про Хьюза нужны) инженеру финансовым гением стать сложно но можно например мне бы из образования частотный анализ помог)), а вот финансист инженером стать... ну как бы проблем по-более будет.

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From: [identity profile] bmc938.livejournal.com
Ну ХЗ - я инженер. Зарплата подросла недавно. Конкуренты звонят периодически с предложениями. Ну да, квартира в ипотеку и машина дешевая - но зато мне не стыдно за свою работу и любого начальника нахер могу послать.

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Date: 4 May 2016 09:53 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] crosszzzz.livejournal.com
Да вы москвич с Арбата, все уже знают.
Date: 5 May 2016 14:22 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] dr-chuydakov.livejournal.com
Как-то видал выпуск "Фиксиков", где Вы изволили беспокоиться что починять в доме стало нечего и потому не пора ли валить в Гермашкуперебираться в другую квартиру. А мне пришло в голову на что-бы мог переквалифицироваться Фиксик буде ему станет нечего починять. И мне вспомнился Нафаня из "Кузьки-домовенка". Коль скоро электроники в доме нет, фиксику можно переквалифицироваться в домовые: держать в порядке сбрую и заплетать косички лошадям.
Date: 5 May 2016 18:35 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] fixik-papus.livejournal.com
Ломается все. Так что можно не переживать :)

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